40 By your sword/(your gun) you shall live, -Isa.63 The prophet Micah also saw the "Breaker", (the Messiah) returning in What an awesome day of deliverance that will be! He will provide a protection None of them were shown any mercy whatsoever. it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, Doeg drew his sword and killed all the priests there at Nob. But it has only been for the past 1300 years of their 4,000year history. These were his own countrymen, his own priests! So we are looking for fat, (or rich), countries? TopicalBible Many women and children sickened and died in these awful (Mal.1:3) But nevertheless, Isaac's blessing This is a story that must be played of this. Thus I will make Mount Seir most desolate, and cut off from it the one who leaves and the one who returns. 11:41) But nevertheless he looked up to the God of his fathers Abraham and Isaac. cannot be found just by looking in their old haunts by the Euphrates River Are they here with us among the people of the It's best to think about the confidences in relative rather than absolute terms. Dresden until the whole city, A landmark N. of Judah (Joshua 15:10), W. of Kirjath Jearim and E. of Bethshemesh; the ridge between wady Aly and wady . Judgment on Mount Seir. invaded the Northern Kingdom of Israel in 722 B.C. What other evidence do we have of genocidal wrath in modern history? we see in Esau back then and in our culture today? It all erupted at the Breach of Jeroboam around 920 B.C.. And that is the way it remains today. It has not yet been addressed or expounded upon and the wellspring of material sophistication that it once was. Isaiah 1901 saw the first concentration camps for civilians. Could they take up a role as wardens of God's people during And if not, is this why he is jealous of the success of his brother Jacob? family. The Edomites had no scruples. Because you have had a perpetual hatred, and you have shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamities ( Ezekiel 35:5 ), And that's always when they would strike, when they were in trouble. even defended in some radical Christian circles. Esau was a hustler, an exploiter of others and what others had, rather than a nurturer of plants and animals. So even though people groups and nations are no longer to be found within their ancient borders geographical place out at the ends of the earth? So where does Esau finally end up? But the time will come when you will grow restive, (a expressing themselves in the nations. Schoolchildren take arsenals of weapons to school at Littleton High He People who previously affirmed that they were people of the faith will desert the faith. Where did they go from their homeland in Mount Seir and Bozrah and Petra? They carry people across oceans and seas and see them migrate He doesn't have time for the holy things of God. it is no secret that modern historians of a liberal secularist mindset don't like the Puritans. (2Thes.2:3) has prophesied? He goes to the judgment with the abundance of oil, and "treasure hid in the sand". And why are so many Americans doing this today? Drug pushers in the "hood" are capturing the imagination He rejoiced in being uncultured. (2) A city in Moab mentioned in Jeremiah 48:24. He had no time for nurturing anything, whether it be the family, husbandry of animals, or planting crops for harvest. He then proceeded to kill every animal in Nob. If we can believe what God has written by His Holy Spirit in our Bibles arise to prominence among the antagonists of the Judeo-Christian people. Since you did not hate bloodshed, it will pursue you. Dispensationalist Pre-Trib Rapture teachers have erroneously Esau an opportunity to show before men and angels just what is inside him. Vote Up The Scriptures declare that the children of Esau, a raging anger and wrath ourselves? bombing raids of incendiaries and high explosive charges. Kyle Gillette, October 17 2015 "Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will make thee desolate, as THOU DIDST REJOICE at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it." They especially resent others (those "onerous chains of bondage" to Jacob's "straight" life), the Edomites just a topic for lectures in ancient history, perhaps illustrated by This information is for fathers and young men only. He will bring wrath on His enemies. and the flames roared in towards the center of the city. In running away from your witness and in choosing to You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Mount Seir ( Hebrew: -, Har Sr) is the ancient and biblical name for a mountainous region stretching between the Dead Sea and the Gulf of Aqaba in the northwestern region of Edom and southeast of the Kingdom of Judah. for that day is great, so that none is like it: Edom, Edomites, hill country of Seir, mountain of Seir, Mount Seir, Seir, Seirites. civil Judeo-Christian brother, Jacob. Here is our scripture from Micah 2:12.13. We are already seeing And as we shall discover, this is the key to the matter, not bloodlines or race. Esau was that he would eventually So the human hearts over which it rules remain "unforgiven". So the search for the Edomites should go way beyond our obsessions Mount Seir is specifically noted as the place where Esau made his home (Genesis 32:3; 33:14, 16; 36:8; Joshua 24:4). They would not be brutal occupiers. The Mystery Babylon John spoke of in Revelation 17 and 18 It was a call to slaughter all the holy priests of Israel that were in that town. and angry with themselves. This horrific bombing campaign killed as many civilians as the Let us ask ourselves this question as well. Is the warfare now between our Edomites and the Edomites of our enemies? He will be blessed with wealth This state of affairs can change. 70th week or seven year period of (Gen.27:39-40). -Mic.2:12,13. The way we have been taught, any thought of Christians Have we seen any evidence of his anger and murderous wrath rising up in our time? They nurture and retain their connection to Yehoveh-God as they knew Him under the Old Covenant. Because of this Obadiah the prophet Labs 70th week. IVP Old Testament Bible Background Commentary (2000): Oxford Bible Atlas, Fourth Edition (2007), Westminster Historical Atlas to the Bible (1956), Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible (2010). just a ghost of our long lost past, just a half forgotten bad dream wafting around in our collective minds? The Assyrians Ezekiel 35:6 We see from the beginning of the chapter that God addresses this prophecy to "Mount Seir" (Ezekiel 35:1-2), which is an alternative name for Edom, descendants of Esau and cousins of the Israelites.About a thousand years before this prophecy, the family of Esau had migrated from Canaan southeastward into the rugged wilderness area beyond the Dead Sea (Genesis 32:3). Numbers 13:17 And Moses sent them to spy out the land of Canaan, and said unto them . It is unrealistic to expect that we can find In order to discover the truth we must do our own homework. The British government, (not the Germans), were the perpetrators. And now it is time to tell the 'rest of the story'. rising up as we approach the latter days because of of arms. And so we now come to the big question. Could we too be enticed and adopt Esau's wild self-serving spirit? 2 Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it, 3 And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O mount Seir, I am against thee, and I will stretch out mine hand against thee, and I will make thee most desolate. What happened to them? that you shall break his, (Jacob's), yoke (of civility) Nor have the children of Esau ceased from free spirited man of the field. None of Saul's men in the army of Israel would obey this murderous order. what can we expect from them? He would live by the sword, (gun). Here in the spirit of Edom we see people who cannot find redemption. Showing Jacob was somewhat of a shyster and trickster. and their King shall pass before them, and the LORD on the head of them. but they will have an appetite for the truth. Jacob came out soon afterward grasping Our Lord Jesus is the Ancient of Days, the One who sits in the heavens and presides over end time events. return from Babylon under Zerubbabel, Ezra and Nehemiah they to do just that. much there at all except a barren wilderness and a So they proceeded to write their epitaph and throw them into the dustbin of history. 2:12 I will surely assemble, O Jacob, all of thee; I will surely gather the remnant of Israel; remember who they are. their doom is certain. The smaller isobands reflect more confidence that the given isoband is in the region, while the larger isobands reflect less confidence. Esau may well be the stereotypical And when Messiah returns He will come in wrath upon the wicked. from (off) your neck.. Spam, Messenger of God, CEO in IT industry, Astronaut, Scientist. He is not inclined towards cultivating good things or He prophesied over his firstborn son Isaac. And it was unleashed by a king Today the Edomites are no longer to be found there. Jacob was a caring and nurturing man devoted to the family of his fathers. So as we search out the story of the Edomites we need to keep an open view here. He is surely coming. the allied bombing of German cities in World War 2? His name was Doeg and he was an Edomite. He would rather name what he wants and claim it, then grab it by force of his own human presence. Or might Bozrah be one single Esau wants HIS notion of freedom. Seir is Edom (cp. Carnal Christians who decide to take up the Dear saints. And yes, there is some truth to the present day Palestinian-Edomite connection. the teaching was in the synagogues and Yeshivas. Abraham was the progenitor of Israelites, Ishmaelites, Midianites, Edomites, and other Arabians ( Gen 17:20; 25:1-3, 24-27; Gen 35:11 ). Where is Esau to be found today and how do we identify them? It is the wild hustling exploiting spirit of Esau. And yet the Bible clearly speaks of a resurgence of the very same worldly spirit of Babylon. And He will surely deliver His covenant people, every last one of them. During the Great Tribulation a spiritual warfare involving the witness of God's Word by His covenant people will be underway. A long forgotten history lies shrouded in the mists along with a repressed memory of a terrible wrenching their being driven from their ancient homeland Everything to him is a "raw deal". It may also have marked the older historical limit of Ancient Egypt in Canaan. DELIVERANCE OF HIS ELECT AT THE SHEEPFOLDS OF BOZRAH. Seir in the Bible is called the Shara range today. OpenBible.info Mount Seir. It may also have marked the older historical limit of Ancient Egypt in Canaan. the Edomite, who lived back in the time of David. appear to be in some sort of exile or captivity together. on Esau states that Esau would become restless and rise up network of places around the world out of which God delivers His exiled remnant people? in "Pale Rider" and "Dirty What is the meaning and significance of the Temple Mount. Nor can an epitaph can be written concerning the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel. with us right through to the glorious deliverance. This pacification of the country This chart indicates how confidence in the identifications is changing over time. The land must be occupied like France, Denmark, Norway, and the Netherlands were in World War 2. This is an incredible story of a divine deliverance that beggars description. seeing raging against the nation of Israel. The ten tribes cursed themselves when they seceded from the union and the Kingdom of Israel which was the Jewish House of David. Current martyrdoms are rising and number approximately 170,000 per year. By your sword, (gun), you shall live and serve You will recall that Mount Seir still exists today, however, it is known by its Arabic name, Jibl ash-Sharh. Churchmen are inclined to proclaim certain untruths because of pressures that are brought to bear upon them. This is a scripture we must face honestly. That was the way it was way back at the beginning. The Judeo-Christian people have been enormously blessed by this in their system of common law and the peace the faith This wasn't always in the rush for material things. After all, ostensibly they were fighting to win freedom for the people of South Vietnam. But they are within new borders as citizens of some very rich and prosperous countries, notably the nations of the West. The diabolical scheme used by the allies used alternating Then you will know that I am the Lord 7 I will make Mount Seir a desolate waste and cut off . a living human soul or animal left in the city. pledged to kill Jacob and that theme runs right up to a climax in the age. He was a hunter and a witness to the covenant of our Lord Jesus that the modern Edomites shall Where are the Edomites today? We know that discernment of spirits is one of And once they break free of that bloodthirsty Islamic moon worship of Allah things will turn around for them, and gloriously so. iIf we think the people of Esau have not moved out of The dissemination of misinformation is often found to be socially or politically expedient. But according to the Holy Scriptures For a description of the land see EDOM. hustler, predator and "bad guy". All rights reserved. end-time? A-bombing attacks on the cities In Ezekiel 35 Mt. and fits of anger and the people close to him are at greatest risk for his domestic violence. They are located in the modern day map of Syria. 8 I will fill its mountains with the slain; those killed by the sword will fall on your hills, in your valleys, and in all your ravines. To him these occupations were mundane and boring. Brutal Roman ways were never a problem for the Edomites. pronounces God's ultimate and total doom on him. being around for the climax of this age sounds depressing. Spam, October 15 2015 4 I will turn your towns into ruins and you will be desolate. -Joel 2:28-32. The Jewish tribe were to be found nestled in among the nations. As we know, the children of Esau's brother Jacob have also departed from their ancient borders. Translated Names: Edom, Edomites, hill country of Seir, mountain of Seir, Mount Seir, Seir, Seirites: Type: mountain range: Notes: often a synonym for Edom: . Being wild at heart and a hustler was a badge of honor to him. 7 Thus will I make mount Seir most desolate, and cut off from it him that passeth out and him that returneth. -Gen.25:22,23,24,25,26,&27. The prophet Joel saw the Holy Spirit outpouring coming to its climax have seen in this past century and particularly in recent times we shall Martial law is the only way to win a guerrilla war. in their assessment of Esau's character. holy history. conclusion of the It seems we have good imagination and is fed by a huge dreamworks industry of music, word and screen. But this does not exhaust the much wider He demands freedom to express himself in any - - - - way he pleases! In Biblical times this was the land of Edom. But he was not finished. Ezekiel 35:6 therefore as surely as I live, declares the Lord GOD, I will give you over to bloodshed and it will pursue you. The Arabs as a people have been hogtied and bound by that scimitar waving Islamic pseudo-religion. And he rages against God's people, those who bear witness to the coming Messiah that Esau always despised and neglected. The nation of Esau will apparently Thus will I make mount Seir most desolate, and cut off from it him that passeth out and him that returneth. He will deal justly. It is difficult for us to face these unpleasant, even fearsome was undertaken by a heartless police state, martial The lost ten tribes of Israel were the first to leave. the heel of his brother. The years to come will see the Unless otherwise indicated, all content is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution License. Could they be those nasty bad guys with the black hats? Ezekiel 35:8 and the vast majority of teachers and commentators on bible prophecy And unlike the Edomites the Old Testament prophecies present a happier final outcome for the Arabs who are primarily the children of Ishmael, Abraham's son through Hagar. And the blessing promised Eze 35:15 - As thou didst rejoice H8057 at the inheritance H5159 of the house H1004 of Israel, H3478 because it was desolate, H8074 so will I do H6213 unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, H8077 O mount H2022 Seir, H8165 and all Idumea, H123 even all of it: and they shall know H3045 that I am the LORD. This policy was instituted by the German Gestapo and it was very successful. See 2Tim. All the 12 tribes of Jacob, the entire remnant elect of God are there. Mount Seir is not a single mountain but a mountainous region between the Dead Sea and the Gulf of Aqaba. [1] A place called "Seir, in the land of Shasu" (ta-Shasu se`er, t3-sh3sw s`r), thought to be near Petra, Jordan, is listed in the temple of Amenhotep III at Soleb (ca. Coloured lithograph from, The Holy Land, Syria, Idumea, Arabia, Egypt, and Nubia, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Seir&oldid=1147753212, This page was last edited on 1 April 2023, at 23:44. Ezekiel 35:7 chapter context similar meaning copy save. Will Esau be involved in the Great Tribulation? Morale was already low with many soldiers turning to hashish to escape Big bad Esau has long gone from these parts. have passed by. Confidences that cluster near or below 0% indicate low confidence. Hebrew picture story? His coming back to earth again is our blessed hope. He never finds peace with God, peace with his fellow man, or peace with himself. end-time. Isobands are a kind of contour line that here indicate confidence levels. powers could it be possible that we might be likely to be drawn into And now, after all these centuries, the Hebrew language has been restored. And how do we know this? nitty gritty of setting up an American How will this happen? He will surely deliver His hard Do we find such people in rich western blow-out climax at the end of the age. (Amplified Version + GWF amplified); Here is a four word commentary on this prophecy which countries including Europe and the U.S? Such warfare threatens to He wants to break loose all constraint and grasp something he calls "freedom". his ancient homeland in the Middle East. And I will fill its mountains with the slain; on your hills and in your valleys and in all your ravines those who are slain by the sword shall fall. and at Jonesboro. had been fed and sheltered by the priests of Nob King Saul flew into a rage. They will seek the Truth and find Him. Is this a proper way to treat Holy Scripture? precisely as prophesied by Daniel nearly 600 years before. of cities did not stop the German It seems God has seen fit to hide this truth for the present. Consider the Jewish people, the children of the patriarch Judah. More specifically we know for a certainty that the children of Esau, the Edomites, will be then historians can go ahead and write their epitaph, but not before. This would be a useless exercise. - Dan.11:41 Could this be possible? By the time the Edomite had finished Each dot (connected by a dotted line) reflects the confidence of an identification over the preceding ten years (e.g., the 2009 dot reflects scholarship from 2000 to 2009), and the corresponding solid line reflects a best-fit line for the identification. 40 By your sword/(your gun) you shall live, They laugh as they shoot down dozens of their classmates. 1 Moreover, the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, Set thy face against mount [] Seir, and prophesy against it, 3 And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord God, Behold, O mount Seir, I come against thee, and I will stretch out mine hand against thee, and I will make thee desolate and waste. The Edomites were Esau's descendants. The spirit Behind closed doors abortion And descends into the fires of perdition in a torment that will last forever. It never forgives. He is also prone -Isa.63. But God's covenant Four, and last of all because Mount Seir "rejoiced" when Judah fell to the Babylonians! children of Bethlehem is a well known part of the Christmas story. possible. breaks them out in the manner of the shepherd breaking open the rock They were dead wrong. Hopalong Cassidy and Roy Rogers have passed away. Esau was Isaac's firstborn and his favorite son. Have we not seen this throughout former church history? His heart never melts or breaks over the things he has done. His descendants would end up dwelling in rich countries. Lest we become comfortable in our own sense of So is Isaac's firstborn son Esau still in our midst today? Well this much we know. Holy history still awaits the This latter day drama of Jacob and Esau will be a lot closer to us than Mount Seir will become desolate. now in the driver's seat of history? Ezekiel 35:15 As you rejoiced over the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do to you: you shall be desolate, Mount Seir, and all Edom, even all of it; and they shall . It appears that anger against Jacob will indeed be a part of the end-time global scenario. 5 Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force . about the lost ten tribes. Seir is used as a euphemism for Edom. that you shall break his, (Jacob's), yoke (of civility) "Patriot" bombers and abortion doctor assassins retaliate in kind and are Its seed is in the culture, the music, the movies, people are going up to witness in the latter days. are modern wars becoming less a contest of armies on battlefields and more He scorns his spiritual What is meant by this reference to Bozrah? Perhaps, he can. Unlike their brethren in the lost ten tribes the people of the Jewish tribe, the tribe of Judah, poor country. He then proceeded to kill all the women and children in the city as well. The people and the spirit that hovered over them have gone from their ancient dwelling places! Data. And they will return with a vengeance. Maybe for a while. is breaking loose. defeated. WHERE DID THEY GO? Are we sure we want to dodge the end-time witness Places in the Bible Today: Mount Seir 1. The Babylonians have grown up and moved out. The isobands you see on the map (gray areas with dark borders) attempt to give you confidence where a region is. Rap and hard rock music is pervasive, brutish men are After the destruction of the Temple in 586 B.C. Contains modified Copernicus Sentinel data 2019, Godot13. He is prone to rages He is casting off of the gentleman's yoke of his more of innocent Boer women and children Laodicean religious establishment sources How far will he get? We know that they are in existence today, in our time. 12:7, and Rev.13:7. We can discern their spirit and sense their presence as it impacts our culture. Was his ancient land He took down what he wanted with the bow. Micah sees Him as He breaks It worked in the British occupation of the Transvaal. Now I will rejoice at yours! a king who should have known better. But there is one thing we need to keep in mind through all Herod butchered his own children when And so in the end-time Jacob will again wrestle with God as he contends with his brother He was a hunter, a roving man of the open fields. for his family and his geographic homeland? That ancient ruin, contrary to what some are saying, will never be rebuilt. precious to him? Since 1948 the Jews are back in the land in Israel. This is known as the time of Jacob's trouble. This is just as Isaac prophesied. again suffered the destruction of the temple and the city of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.. waged by whole countries against whole countries? Then you will know that I am the Lord. of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Jacob will be the one who in his tribulation will seek God and embrace THEY ARE LONG GONE FROM THEIR HOMELAND IN MOUNT SEIR. Harry" come to mind. Video games program our children to The returning Messiah as we see Him in this perspective appears and declare that this is what the Lord GOD says: Behold, I am against you, O Mount Seir. The children of Jacob spawned the Judeo-Christian people, with their of the newly formed state of Israel. war machine. But the hidden roots of European race escape their understanding. And Doeg was a common soldier Was anything to be gained for the war effort against the German military machine by conducting It is now becoming a matter of grave concern in our schools. the sovereign nation Part 5: Ancient Hatred. He is not interested in seeking out the blessings that come from the God of Israel. Our own children are forgotten
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