I went there that day with an equally unsaved friend and we both left that day Yeah, I find that statement overused and an oversimplification of the real issues. When I say false teaching I mean heresy, not non essential doctrines which have no bearing on salvation. Discipleship is the keystone that is missing in our churches. Im heartbroken to hear that. I am finding this site among others that are confirming some concerns. You should be able to pull up the bizarre video on YouTube along w/ his wifes pic laying on a grave to soak up the dead persons anointing. to serve the church just wasn't the same. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here lol. liar. The reason some people leave Pentecostal churches isnt because of Pentecostalism but because of Christianity in general. all these people saying God told them this and that. Calvinism, though not Cultic (but borderline) is a false teaching in itself which misrepresents the character of our wonderful Lord and His awesome plan of salvation. Share our lives with eachother. Paul in Acts 20 spoke of a time of false teachers infiltrating the Church and even rising up out if it. I went in for 15 years and I now too am about to turn 40 and Im angry I was so deceived. down if you didn't give for a week or two. I was 21 years old when I truly came to know Christ and now I am 40 and let me tell you this stuff gets old. The definitions that helped me understand what was happening are exegesis verses eisegesis please look it up. It will be in Bangkok mid January and it would be good if we could meet to discuss future placements in Thailand. They cooperated with other churches to organize big events in Its unexplainable as you cannot explain it. Thank you for voicing it. The fact of the matter is, there are true Christians in Church, there are backsliders in church, there are unsaved people at church, even the devil goes to church etc etc. If it had been left to me Id have given up after a day or so. I didn't Jesus Christ is the Cornerstone that holds the structure altogether. My faith was It sound devlish. This is a mirror of my own experiences in the Church system, I too walked away from it but doing so, onto the real narrow path that leads to everlasting life. The fact is that This specific brand of Christianity has millions following the Bethel, IHOP stream which have spoke of merging together based on a mystical prophetic word/belief taught by Peter Wagner, Bob Jones and other blatant heretics. ABBA IS CALLING US OUT OF BABYLONHIS TRUE REMNANTreturning to HIS WAYS, HIS INSTRUCTIONS(TORAH), HIS FEASTS, HIS SHABBAT. Instead of getting closer to God, I found myself I read most of the Old Testament but always got stuck in the book of Jerimiah. Finally I had a dream being locked inside a glass building and when I woke up that morning I knew it was time I havent looked back. I began to see what seemed like little miracles every day. Maybe I needed to stop working extra hours and devote more time to How God was going to send a great revival which didnt make sense to me because the bible taught of a great apostasy the polar opposite. I picked myself up and eventually found someone wonderful. questionable to me. It has only been out there for a few days. Which led me to something else: I love the bible and can spend hours reading it. He taught how beneficial they were( to control the people). In the aftermath of the Azusa St. Revival, the demand for denominational organization became clear to many when founded Christian churches mostly denied Pentecostal followers. That is why we need to be careful and use discernment and not throw the baby with the bathwater. One thing I have observed, is that the truly godly ministers are not proud and self-seeking but humble before God, honest, and fearlessly devoted to Him and His truth, and their joy and desire is to obey Him, introduce others to Him, and give all the glory to Him . I dont know how yall can lump Rick Joyners ministry into all this. I do not say these things out of pride or self ambition but I am truly DETERMINED to live my life for Him no matter what others do or dont do. Through the years I didnt buy into many of the man-made traditions we had adopted like falling on the floor or thinking one had to speak in tongues to have the Holy Spirit nonetheless I went along with it because I didnt think it was hurting anyone. very sad. I am writing this blog in hopes that if you stumble upon it that it will be a source of great comfort to you. There was no pressure to Where does the Holy Spirit fit into Sola Scriptura? It was a extremely hard decision for me, but i felt it was the right thing to do. I certainly dont see myself as the pot calling the kettle black only a woman sharing her testimony. How To Get Over A Guy I Have Strong Feelings For? For forty years I have argued against and resisted all things charismatic. I learned more about Israel and the feasts if God in Old Testament times in a few months listening to Perrys teachings than I ever have in my local non-denominational church. Hi there, it is sooo crucially important that we continue to pray for the bride. A friend of mine at the time had mental health issues (whacky backy didnt help) and was advised to leave the Charismatic movement and find a quieter faith, one which does not put so much emphasis on experience and challenge of the human condition. We should spend time with Him to get to know Him as God in all His wonderfullness, also to find His road mapped out for ME, where He wants ME to serve in His Kingdom and that aint gonna happen by attending one service weekly and the rest of the time doing as I please. So after I quit a good job where I had it all going for me, my life started to fall apart. Bless you as you too continue to seek His face! Going to church every sunday, praise and worship, listen to a scripture and go home again. same thing multiple times, that was also a sign of failure. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. I stormed out and have never been back. View all posts by puresola. No more Sunday church services, its been liberating in some ways once I shook the guilt off. I never had one of those supernatural healing moments. God why was I deceived? this one, that I would wind up sick and possibly even die because I was outside of God's will. Yall try this combination from pizza hut (the best pizza ever). Praise God. karpfmichael@hotmail.com, Pastor John MacArthur conducted a Bible conference on the charismatic movement a few years ago called Strange Fire. I think you would appreciate it! Offended people sometimes have a wrong perception when no real offense exists. I think you are taking my words out of context. Its in those moments I felt closer to God than screaming my lungs out in a church. But the real proof would have been a real miracle where someone re-gained their site or a deformed limb was restored. God led me out of the movement and today I am free! Yes Mark, I have heard and seen crazy stuff in the Church since I became a Christian as a kid. I just cant believe this is God. being: God loved me, God didn't want anything bad to happen to me, and God would protect me Which is why he is forced to accept the workings of the Holy Spirit in scripture, those strange goings which opponents thought were of the devil or threatened their own religious viewpoints. I wanted to stay in a charismatic/Pentecostal church, but I hoped to find one that wasn't so controlling. Not sure whats so bad about 7-M. Flee the hirelings and the organized mess that only wants converts to their denomination. It leads to a new moral code at odds with the worlds, and it will not be acceptable to that same world that prefers darkness rather than light; it is incomprehensible to it. For me the best way to find out what we should do or where we must go, is to ask our Father. I feel fortunate that every teaching from the pulpit, and Sabbath school, was straight from the bible and cross referencing scriptures according to the lesson we were studying. This is the link, http://www.takeheed.info/index-for-assorted-articles/charismatic-type-issues/, Cecil Andrews Thus, there is no longer a need nor cause for any words from God because he has said all he needs to say in the bible. About 6 months after I was saved I had all sorts of false teaching come my way (Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, Church of Christ, Calvinism, Oneness Pentecostals (ACLJ wing), Christian Science, Once Saved Always Saved, Seventh-day Adventist, Word of Faith (BJ teaching), etc, etc. We had daily bible studies and prayer groups. I now know it is manufactured, carnal and the tool Satan is using to raise up false converts with zero knowledge of the Word. I grew up in a small Baptist church that had almost no spirit at all. Then we wouldnt be surprised by things happening around us. That makes me laugh, yesssss it was soooooo LONG!! Assembly of God, Calvary Chapel, Southern Baptist are generally good Churches. Let this not become a church bashing agenda here. Most definately. As stated in previous posts, I believe that God speaks but if you have a word it better not go against His Word. Free at last. We were making some It really makes my skin crawl to hear the type of preaching I sat under for so long. Leave Egypt, leave the baggage and go into the desert. Meaning I do not believe the apostolic gifts today but I believe God can warn people by speaking about what is to come in their personal lives and convict them, etc. Many Ministers pray, seek the Lord, read and study the word with a passion of the love of Christ. Maybe next time I would get it right. I spend a lot of time on my own with the Lord, I join prayer groups and chats like this or whatsapp groups. Guilt would eat him up and he would go almost suicidal. To tell someone they dont have the Holy Ghost if they dont speak in tongues sets people up to speak in fake tongues or doubt their salvation. To keep my eyes aware to possible false teachings. His word is enough for us. YMMV, What a wonderful summary of how God has been leading you into His truth and light. that may have been intended for someone else. There were career musicians Thank you for the oppertunity to share and to see that there are quite a number of people in the same boat as I! Its just that the leaders of Vineyard Anaheim believe that God is guiding them to leave the denomination their church helped start. But i realized people only. I still had close friends in the church. Once we were all encouraged to speak in tongues and shout out our cities name as claimed territory In the name of Jesus. Its certainly better than the hype, spectacle, idolatry and abuse of power that follows some prominent gifted individuals. I received a letter from a man who was raised as a Catholic in the 1960s and who stated that the Catholic Church Acts 20:29-32 KJV How God had great and mighty plans for my generation and how he was going to use us in a MIGHTY way. I learned to live from word to word and conference to conference, it was a spiritual high I was chasing. Another concern is that church leaders, to my knowledge, does not call on members to find answers in Gods Word, the preacher state something as a fact and thats the end of it. I longed to be closer to God. Northern Ireland I was dealing with a painful medical problem. Have you ever met someone on Social Media and started dating them? Nationally known guest speakers visited from time to time. So that is why I'm going to recommend some reading that will surely help you in your quest to find your faith again. Sure there is false teaching and darkness but as Christians we are to take a stand for the truth and allow God to use us to reach a lost and hurting world. This is the conditioning that goes on in the charismatic/Pentecostal church. option, but it was also an admission of failure and lack of faith. One bride, one body of Christ. I read news papers from which the Lord calls me to pray, I hear people talk and get involved in chats. Due to their extreme legalism I felt that I was not getting the true message of the gospel, but instead indoctrinated by man-made rules. I am quite familiar with the biblical accounts of external manifestations of Gods power. I remember seeking after the Holy Ghost. Thanks. Light Skinned Women Are Like A Drug To Me. I was raised Baptist, but I've had a few family members change from Baptist to Apostolic. Anyways, you know this. I had to break away from ALL my church friends to get clarity. 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While having seen bad things in the Church I have seen a lot of good too. There is an airof spiritual elitism aboutit. I became increasingly aware that the preachers I was listening to used bible scriptures here and there but mainly they talked of their own experiences and turned it into doctrine. Please ! Three years ago I went to a revival in a church and, for the first time ever queued to get in. Everything from modern day apostles and prophets, signs and wonders, women in leadership, all spiritual gifts exist or only a portion exist today, social gospel/social justice, market place ministry (We Love Our City), 7 mountain mandate and on and on. The Lord is calling his children out from the delusion and false teaching of the pentecostal movement, one by one. Maybe.I can only pray that God keeps me until I can get everything right. My question; has anyone experienced the leadership or the prayer team breathing odd, like an inhale swoop? The one thing I dont like about my church is that they do believe you must speak in tongues to say you have the Holy Ghost/Spirit which I do not believe. I am a person that will always be drawn to the authentic and when my own faith started to feel like I was going through the motions, I had to take a step backagain, like you and so many othersI am not stepping away from GOD, I am stepping away from the establishment that calls itself the church. wasn't perfect, so I was probably doing something bad without even realizing it. They heaped guilt and that strained my relationship with God.The angry watchmen remind me of how unworthy I am now. This thus saith the Lord stuff has hurt a lot of people. Spend time with the Lord, in a group or on your own doesnt matter, the focus is on my Beloved, not the people around me. God continues to give me beauty for ashes, strength and grace to forgive. The Christian life is not about programs, it is about loving God and loving others (one another, neighbours, enemies) because we love Him and His love flows through us for others . If you call out a minister on their poor or even criminal behavior and present facts to back up your claim they either ignore you all together or get mad as a hornet. While all this chaos is going on around me another lady I was attending church with began dating a man because God told her he was the one. These men prophesy lies and the people imagine vain things. I look forward to your next post! Wilkersons students didnt have ministry degrees and were former drug abusers. the community. First of all, Jesus cast out those kind of spirits and sent them back to hell from whence they came. I was so happy to read your message! Thats why it is so important to share our stories. Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote to the Church of Corinth to correct several major errors including the abuse of the Gifts of the Spirit. During the year that I attended that Todd Bentley during this was in a sexual affair w/ a woman in the ministry. You are all invited to participate..to question the assumptions, not all pentecostal/evangelical churches are like this, mine certainly aint,. For example some people get bent out of shape if you believe in a pretrib rapture and think you ate a heretic. I left at 1.30am when the meeting was still going on. My 2cents, I do understand what you have gone through, that is why we are to read our word to know what is biblical or not. tiers of Christian with the church family, those who speak in tongues (or who. It is so important that we know the scriptures and keep those scriptures in context so we can discern what is truth and what is not . Search the scriptures and you will find Him there. You will hopefully find this article informative on this book The Great Controversy by Ellen White this is the link http://www.takeheed.info/pdf/March-2014/The-Great-Controversy.pdf, Im not an Adventist although I know decent people who are. ADOS). When we have visitors from other churches, thats where I notice a lot of what you talk about. I was listening to Bethel worship, Hill songs, all the cutting edge worship. 32 And you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free. i agree most if not all televised preacher n preachings are doing it all wrong n for the wrong reasons, you cant tarnish us all with the same brush so to speak. Completegarbage. How vain have we become to think the God who is holy, righteous, pure in every way looks to give us his Presence or another word to puff us up! I have been invited to a park this Sunday for fellowship with other believers so Im more interested in grass root movements and genuine fellowship rather than pseudo-relationships once/twice a week. I thank God for Martian Luther who saw corruption in the church then nailed the 95 theses to the door of Wittenberg Castle Church. Romans 3:20-22 KJV This was a result of the fulfillment of the promise Jesus gave to The Bible teaches that only the 12 disciples received first the Holy Spirit. I attend a Pentecostal church after leaving the Catholic church. Judgement and wrath can be expected to anyone who teaches another gospel. It discerns the intentions of the heart. But I didn't get it right next time, or the time after that, or the time after that. - What should we think of the Signs and Wonders movement? It takes a while to shake off the guilt and conditioning of attending church every Sunday. I had tasted that discipline before, but I knew it was nothing compared to what was Everyone at our church always has their bible out so that they know where to seek the Lord. Hiking, talking to God. The Bible is very clear on what the key to salvation is so why preach something that isnt of God? Of course now I am a sinner.I failed because God wasnt enough. I do know how you feel. I can see where puresola is coming from. The Holy Spirit will not contradict the Word of God but enlighten the Scriptures to us. I hate to feel that the next time I walk into a church I will be skeptical of everything but, unfortunately, that is where the world is at. The fact that it did not line up with Gods word or his Character made me even more angry. I had done everything I knew how to That's why the people outside where amazed that they were hearing the gospel in THEIR own language. I feel burn out on it and I think thats normal. Well I guess you now know what God is doing, Hes bringing His real children out of a apostate Church and into His truth. God bless https://youtu.be/sJDgZg7H35c. The basic precepts of a Spirit-filled life are 100% biblical, but Word-Fatih, NAR, and other deviancies replaced these distinctives with utter garbage and the teachings of the Nicolaitans, teachings which God hates.. With each Acts 17:10-12 NKJV Chorus: On Christ the Solid Rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand all other ground is sinking sand.. I was prophesied over several times and the hope of what was said never came to fruition. However truth be told, Gods inspired, holy word really does satisfy a thirsty soul. They are irrefutable to the believer. For the first time, a man has won the women's Tour of the Gila. The Assemblies of God were founded in Hot Springs, Arkansas in April, 1914. In Charismatic Chaos, John F. MacArthur calls for biblical evaluation and analyzes the doctrinal differences between charismatics and non-charismatics in the light of Scripture. God! I know someone in my feed sent me a link to look through. 1 Tim 4:16 (NKJV) Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. The This broke me and I decided to start living again too. No smoke and mirrors. Praise God for His mercy and grace!. False prophecy is rampant in these circles. They claim you are speaking out against the Lords anointed. The church was definitely Pentecostal, but the supernatural gifts and miracles were rarely the focus came back, so did the feeling of complete rejection and failure. Greet believers at church. Wolves kill sheep and we must contend for the faith. It was a process to leave my former church and begin attending the new church regularly. The UMC denomination is in the battle of its life over the perversion infiltrating their churches. Be blessed. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. The real reason the so called church has gotten so apostate is because they have He did not condemn the WHOLE Church because of the error if some. We Christians moan about a lot of ungodly areas of our lives whether in the media, schools, business etc. Everyone has ideas, come from different backgrounds and have varying levels of faith. The body of christ. A born evangelist with a true shepherds heart. God used this time to begin opening my eyes to the truth. WebThe Swedish Pentecostal Movement (Swedish: Pingstrrelsen i Sverige) is a Pentecostal movement in Sweden. We are sinful, arrogant and yes, full of pride. Your story and my story are very similar. Even more so, that we keep lifting all of it up to the Lord in prayer and that He would expose any lies that live within the church as well as our own hearts. Keep going, God is real, Christ is real, the gifts of the Holy Spirit are real and 100% authentic Gods glory is real and seen in the true work of the Spirit. Timya Robinson started her career as a street cop. Also, I pray for discernment of those I meet.
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