Ceremonial clothing previously used may still be worn for temple worship. I think every person in this organization is just so very much looking forward to being back together. A textual reading is quite clear. (I see where it can be misinterpreted that way, but as far as I can see, thats not what the text actually says. The linked site has its own terms of use, privacy policies, and security practices that differ from those on our website. Mostly, the circle made my arm really tired & it was weird holding hands with a stranger for an extended period of time. I literally didnt sleep the 24 hours afterwards wondering what I had done but -alas my whole family had been doing this for generations and I thought myself unworthy for questioning. We provide the link to this third party's website solely as a convenience to you. My interviewees did not report exactly the same new wording but said the warning now cautions us to avoid something akin to unworthy thoughts and actions.. It seems to me that the cosmos is created in a way that protects sacred space. (2) I do not misunderstand polygamy. And that someone with failings, like me, through Christ, enters in. It is interesting to see how folks on both sides of the Great Woke Divide experience these things.). The version that was being used when I had my personal endowment experience 20+ years ago? @Elisa I think I read that in the sealing part that husband and wife now give themselves to each other. ), Donate to the newsroom now. At this point I will never go to the temple again. Inasmuch as were here having a new experience with no memory of our deep past it is only logical that the gospel is bound to come to us in the abstract. Section 59 (August 7, 1831) is evidence that Joseph was teaching and talking about the temple long before his induction to Masonry (March 15, 1842). First of all, plural marriage is a *form* of polygamy, but is not exactly the same; and secondly, while it is a *part* of the new and everlasting covenant, it has never been equivalent to it. Individuals are responsible to make their own decisions about vaccination. Rest assured the Church & temple remain steadfastly sexist , (Tongue in cheek but I do appreciate your comment. Women ran for public office while their sister wives raised their kids. I feel bored, discounted and coerced by those who ask me to sit in silence and believe everything someone in authority says. The pageant had been held yearly since 1937 for a total of 84 years and was one of the largest outdoor theater productions in the United States, a Newsroom press release stated. I always find what you have to say interesting and illuminatingeven when I disagree with you. The following is the 1984 transcript of the endowment with the appropriate changes marked to indicate where differences between this version and the current endowment. Present the basis of your statements. Just because your experiences are different doesnt mean my experiences are non existent. I have enjoyed hearing how you interpret the symbols and I agree with you on some and learned a new perspective on others. Eliza If women are so amazing, I recommend we just let them decide how they want to be treated instead of men telling them how they should want to be treated.. The point is that he felt that in the few years he had been a member of the Church, every General Conference address about men had focused on their depravity and need to repent; while every address about women had focus on our spirituality and eternal value. Whatever they do is too little too late and probably misses the whole point anyway, sort of like closing the barn window after the animals all walk out the open door. Elisa, I represent the vast majority of the church who doesnt want to see the leaders cave in to the worldly woke agenda that is ultimately driving these changes. But over time with tithing being part of the gatekeeper for a recommend and my ex still going to the temple because she didnt earn any money and me not going because I didnt pay tithing but paid my/her bills instead, I quit going in the early 90s. Even if I had to work so she could stay home with my kids, it would be better than what we have now. In fact thats one of the things we learn in the templewe cant just ascend willy-nilly. For conceptual covenant, if obedience, sacrifice, gospel, chastity and consecration, are more comfortable than sabbath, sacrifice, tithe, fast, and consecration, then stick to your guns. @Elisa, when I first experienced the presentation of the endowment, I was waiting for the point to get rid of the green apronI understood the symbolism, and so I couldnt imagine wearing the symbol throughout. The angel Moroni. Those requirements include the following: The new Gospel for Kids App has four sections: Scripture Stories, Coloring Books, Sing-Along, and More Activities. Im really surprised theyve made the endowment longer and not shorter thats pretty crazy to me. The many complaints, comments, feedback received, combined with dwindling attendance and availability of ordinance workers. I love a good discussion where every angle of a problem is honestly and openly examined. Regarding informed consent Simply informing participants that these are the 5 covenants youll make isnt informed consent. The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released the following message on Monday, July 20, 2020, about changes to the temple endowment ceremony: The sacred teachings, promises, and ceremonies of the temple are of ancient origin, and point God's children to Him as they make further covenants and learn more about . Changing the ceremony to movies was a big change except that a couple of temples (SLC and Manti) kept the live ceremonies. If that be the case, Im very sorry to hear that; but Im honestly not sure how that would be possible. Your email address will not be published. In the past, a part of the temple ceremony was modeled by a witness couple, usually but not always a husband and wife, who were asked shortly beforehand to step into that role. @fred, what specifically about these changes reflects a woke agenda? And so the apron is a symbol of our imperfection. [pause] . Cain sought to skip the order and go right to the veil (an echo of Lucifers rebellion). But the New and Everlasting covenant of Marriage is a complementary relationship. Why not expend the same energy trying to convince people committing crimes not to harm others? That said, what we forget sometimes is that in spite of the complementary-ness of the relationship between the two it wont work unless they are one. The 2019 slide show was gone and no movie replaced it. For example, I would love nothing more than to be a stay-at-home mom, but our family situation doesnt allow for that. https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/10/28/she-shall-believe-or-she-shall-be-destroyed-dc-121-and-132/ Temple Ceremony / Masonry | Mormon Stories I had assumed it was only temporary as they were changing up the ceremony, but it sounds like they kept this as a permanent feature? Im not even going there. Do leaders understand the symbolism of the fig tree/leaf/fruit? There arent any changes that would make me want to go again. . Concepts such as Law of Obedience and Law of the Gospel are nonsensical, incongruent. 30 45 minutes would be even better! Was it kinda weird having someone put stuff on your body? Im overjoyed, James Sutherland, a choir member and committee member who helped organize the choirs safe return to singing, told Deseret News. Yes, the new and everlasting covenant is also spoken of, but how many sections of the Doctrine & Covenants consist of the Lord giving Joseph way more than he bargained for? In my first interview, a woman told me how excited she was to see two women demonstrating on screen how to go through the veil and that the ordinance worker being depicted was a Black woman with gorgeous, long braids. The very next interview was with a woman who told me how excited she was that of the two men shown demonstrating how to go through the veil, one appeared to be Asian. In an effort to keep temples open, the First Presidency asked members to wear face masks in the temple. A devotional with Elder D. Todd Christofferson and a broadcast of the pageant was held on July 9, 2021. Learn how your comment data is processed. What major changes happened in the Church in 2021? Take a - LDS Living Project manager Joshua Rich told Newsroom, Our hope is that this app provides an opportunity for kids to really step up and be able to learn and explore, and in some instances, even teach their families. But thats not the only simplification. On Cain and Abel, yes, something could be said about intent. However, the true reason why the Lord rejects Cains offer is because it is not the correct order. And what did all of *that* have to do with a carpenter from Nazareth? That means I no longer have to apply the mental gymnastics you just applied to make myself feel a little more equal to my husband and men in the church. The prayer included a blessing that the attendees would want to return and serve in the temple often. With that in mind, when what consider that which is most sacred above all it should be obvious why the woman is at the fulcrum of eternitythe center. Symbols seldom have *one* hard and fast and unchangeable meaning. This is a great and positive story. More sanitized, more sterile, more boring. And will know our righteousness level just by knowing us better than we know ourselves. Thats what it means to be a good girl/woman, to quietly support this structure and not even see it. I just spent a few minutes googling. In my mind, sexism isto quote Dictionary.comdiscrimination or devaluation based on a persons sex or gender, as in restricted job opportunities, especially such discrimination directed against women. Im sure youve been the victim of sexism in your life, as have I; but I honestly dont see sexual distinction as discrimination or devaluation.. The Church President, of course, has repeatedly spoken of the vital importance of using the correct name of the Church. They will be constructed at or near the following locations: Kaohsiung, Taiwan. it at least places her at the center of creation Why does the women need to be at the center? Even so, I would say that complimentary relationships can be considered doctrinaldepending on how we define doctrine, that is. Youre entering a very secret club with its own clothing, customs, social norms, and hierarchy, even giving up your own life if necessary, to the building up of the kingdom of god. First Presidency announces changes to the temple endowment ceremony Still, I did it and felt pressured and hypocritical. The War in Heaven. Joseph started giving the endowment to a select few as he introduced them to being given spiritual wives. The Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony - Mormons in Transition Over the past few days, Ive been interviewing people off the record about their impressions of the changes. Isnt it great when can disagree without being disagreeable? Temple reopening status tracker through June 24 - Church News Read about the dedication at Church News. But others are also correct in saying that the fig leaf is sacred and should be worn throughout the entire endowment. How do you see Adam and Eve as obviously different in some of their functions? Therefore, effective immediately, all temple patrons and workers are asked to wear face masks at all times while in the temple. So the new movies came out in 2013 and were used until January 2019. I felt the light of the Lord, Kristen Johnson, of Pocatellos Trinity Episcopal Church, told Deseret News. I know it was probably inserted because of pushback about informed consent but it would be better placed in a good temple prep course which at the moment is still sadly lacking. Making amends in an unapologetic world: No forgiveness for institutions incapable of public repentance.
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