Thanks for all those mopar part #s and neon links, now you gave out all my secrets, but thats ok the more neons the better. ?? This style of driving has a couple of benefits. Any car missing the V.I.N. We won't change the setup at this point in time, but the driver will need to think more about throttle control coming off the corners to prevent wheel spin. I would use a 1997 car and engine, install pistons from a 1998 2.2, to raise the compression ratio, OR have a 1998 2.2 and install the 1997 head and intake,,, either one will raise your compression ratio! It creates a few headaches though. Raise the rear ride height another inch. Any time youre flying a car through the world youre flying it on four palms of your hand on the ground. Thank you. We have standing starts,our track is biased with only one left/right hand corner depending on track direction that day so I used to run staggered camber for track direction. The best way to accomplish this rotation is by decreasing the amount of rear grip in relation to the front (or by increasing front grip in relation to the rear) at corner entryeither through driver input, car setup or both. Hardened and more packed as the surface begins to dry out: 1.3 to 1.5 g's (still good corner speed while losing a little grip off the corner). Don't worry about the LR since it has little effect on handling. Pure Stock, Information Contributed by : Torg Motorsports, ---------------------------------------------------------------------. That's what Randy Pobst talks about on the latest episode of "The Racing Line. We need to maintain the downforce our car produces for corner speed, while providing some kind of bite off the corners. to the fact that my car gets around the track faster thanks to Nick Holt. Kit includes 1 hub and 1 bearing. Honda Civic stick shift tranny gear ratios,,, from the honda civic forum,,,, http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_45588/tm.htm, Transmission Name Engine Counter Part 1st Gear 2nd Gear 3rd Gear 4th Gear 5th Gear Reverse Final Drive, L3 88-91 HF 3.250 1.650 1.033 0.823 0.694 2.954 (3.250 Cali) 3.880, L3 88-91 DX 3.250 1.894 1.259 0.937 0.771 3.153 3.880, L3 88-91 Si 3.250 1.894 1.259 0.937 0.771 3.153 4.25, L3 JDM Integra ZXi 3.250 1.894 1.346 1.033 0.771 3.153 4.437, L3 JDM DOHC ZC 3.250 1.944 1.250 0.909 0.878 3.153 3.880, L3 USDM D16A1 Integra 3.181 1.944 1.347 1.033 0.823 3.153 4.216, http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_45186/tm.htm, http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_45184/tm.htm, D13A2 1.3 8V SOHC 2bbl Carb 1342 60hp@5500rpm 73tq@3500rpm 87 Civic/CRX 1.3, D15A2 1.5 8V SOHC 2bbl Carb 1488 76hp@6000rpm 84tq@3500rpm 87 Civic/CRX 1.5, D15A2 1.5 8V SOHC 2bbl Carb 1488 58hp@4500rpm 80tq@2500rpm 87 Civic/CRX HF, D15A3 1.5 8V SOHC PGM-FI 1488 91hp@5500rpm 93tq@4500rpm 87 Civic/CRX Si, D15B1 1.5 8V SOHC PGM-FI 1493 70hp@5500rpm 83tq@3000rpm 88-?? Yes, you do have to be careful and make sure you carry as much momentum as you can through the corner with a Crate, but you also have to do that in the Supers too. It's what racing is all about and it's all fun. Driver-side window net required, minimum 16x20 ribbon or mesh style, and must be mounted so latch is at top front of window. No iron, galvanized pipe or fittings, square tubing, brazing or soldering allowed. No weight jacks, modifications, racing components, aftermarket or homemade tractions devices allowed. Minimum three-inch wide five point safety belt assembly required (Y-type shoulder harness not allowed) must be mounted securely to roll cage, recommended to be no more than one year old. Smog pump, catalytic converter and air conditioning compressor may be removed. All four tires and wheels must be the same series, size and offset. The disclaimer here (before I get totally ripped on the GRM forums) is that there are many ways to skin a cat when it comes to car setupfar more than I have space here to go into. It is indeed a "real" race car doing real racing. 5. Remove the entire interior, you don't want to leave anything that could catch fire when you start welding. ACP: So with left-foot braking, is basically keeping the throttle wide open, and dragging the brake with your left foot to make it work a little like the hand brake. More rebound shifts. cars. This transfer of weight to the front of the car should allow the rear to lose enough grip to have some rotation into the corner, thus allowing the driver to open the wheel much more at exit for better grip and acceleration. I am only familiar with how to change the camber on the Mopar cars. The reason caster is a highly effective adjustment on front-wheel drive race cars is that as caster is increased, camber will also increase exponentially with steering angle. Be sure to check your toe often and learn to adjust it. 8 tips on how to win dirt-track racing with almost any car Keep the air pressure high. 0kodX9Z3Bi2nO6OQTe5bVJSzO5kwBxYM7bL09OpJq1vrj58DBe72aytO2biUT45z. I'm racing a front wheel drive hatchback.. Its about 160bhp, weighs 900kilo's, uses Coilovers with only bump rate (no rebound), corner weights left to right are perfect, front to back is about 65/35, using a controlled 15" slick tyre! Because youre asking them to take that side load, and you add the accelerative force.. The way to think about this is: race drivers often illustrate stuff with cutlery, so driving a RWD car is a little like piloting a knife. The competition here is so good you really have to be smooth and on top of your game to keep those lap times down consistently. This track condition means the tires are getting a lot of grip and the surface tends to have ruts that grab the car hard. FRONT WHEEL DRIVE RULES. Check with the race track as many of the racers are willing to do this. Buy a good air pressure gauge, tire pressure is the biggest adjustment you will be making. A go-kart is a small tubular frame open-wheel vehicle that typically uses small 2-stroke or 4-stroke gasoline-powered engines. The RF = 350; RR = 200; LR = 200 (375 pounds swing arm). The changes will be realistic and will not involve cutting or welding the chassis. This article has been my guide for modifying, my Fiesta, nice to see it out again. Easy Steps to build a Pony or F.W.D. The most difficult tracks are the ones in which the type of dirt or clay needs a lot of moisture in order for the track crew to be able to groom the track. But if you have tried getting out of the throttle early and. The car's center of gravity (CG) needs to be lower when the grip is high. EXHAUST: Exhaust manifold must be unaltered, OEM for year, make and model of car used. LF = 350; RF = 325; LR = 200 (350 pounds swing arm); RR = 175 (325 pounds swing arm). The .91 ratio transfer gears are needed along with the 2.86 ring and pinion gears. Usually a trip around the autowreckers will turn up something that looks stock. Front and rear firewalls must remain and have no holes. Dry slick, a condition in which the track has lost considerable moisture and is now very dry and slick with little grip: 0.7 to 0.9 g's (The cars are now very slow in getting into and through the turns, and traction under power is very low. Now that youve done the impossible and gotten a front-wheel drive race car handling well, youre free to take on easier assignmentslike solving the European debt crisis or resurrecting Lindsay Lohans acting career. Tire selection should include a little more siping to help dissipate heat, as the tires will begin to spin slightly coming off the corners. But generally, I've found the following to work good when coming in after a hot practice session: Hmm Maurice might want to read up on roll couple distribution theory. Check with the other race teams and find out what tire they are running. Kill switch required within easy reach of driver and must be clearly marked OFF and ON. Plan your. For you lucky hi-speed users, it's not a huge problem. Decrease the air pressure all around for more footprint area, and groove the tires for the most side bite with more grooves and a limited number of siping cuts. Next in line are anti-roll bars. 2 talking about this. Check back here often for more tips and advice for . build the 4 door neon, not the 2 door, the 4 door is lighter and stronger!!). 26 Driving Techniques From The World's Best Race Car Drivers - HotCars Probably (because most FWD stuff sucks to begin with). The setup may look like this: LF = 350; RF = 325; LR = 185; RR = 150 (double the rear springs for the swing arm car); Panhard bar at 12 inches left. Because the weight is all in the bowl of the spoon, where your fingers dragging it down, and its dragging the rest of the car with it. Walk on foot. OEM master cylinder only, in OEM location. Must use minimum 1.50-inch O.D. Others are far more involved and only make sense for dedicated race cars. The car should enter, go through the middle, and come off the corners going straight ahead and balanced in the overall setup. (A) $1500 cash claim or exchange on complete car. Same as production 199599 ACR. Install softer rebound left-side shocks and softer compression right-side shocks. In the case of a rear-wheel drive car, you get those two rear tires, those two rear palm-prints, they always get to push you forward, and the front tires only have to turn you side to side, and usually stop you, too, because thats where most of the braking force happens of course. DIRT Track Racing Action - IN-CAR Camera Saturday Night Heroes - SNHFeaturing - Rudi MostertS01E07Hosted by:Grant Burton & Rudi MostertIn this episo. (See, now you wish you hadnt skimmed over that whole trail-braking section). This will get you a little more adjustment. It is also a good idea to change the oil and filter in the transmission. Sleepy Trip, tech writer from Stock car magazine has his own web site, he is building a NEON to race in Florida, and has posted all the tech articals, http://www.ovaltrackdigest.com/article-directory.htm. This latest video by Cleetus gives the highlights from his weekend racing at the Cleetus McFarland Danger Ranger 9000 On Dirt . That's all for part 1. Smooth driving is important now as any complete loss of grip in the front or rear tires will cause a great increase in the lap times. Run a higher pressure in all of the tires. A typical spring layout would be: left-front (LF) = 800; RF = 900 (or a 750 with a full spring rubber, if spring changes are not allowed); left-rear (LR) = 200; RR = 225 (or a 175 with two full spring rubbers). Just remember to use less throttle so you don't spin the tires, because that means losing traction. Watch the races and see what the fast guys are driving, chances are they have already researched different makes and models and are racing a style of car for a reason. If you are loose when you start coming up out of the gas, you've got to keep the car loaded on all four corners instead of just going into the corner and letting out all the way on the gas and getting on the brakes because that is going to make you freer. Dirt track cars run the gambit from stock car-style Late Models to hybridized Modifieds to open-wheel Karts, midgets, dwarfs, winged and non-winged Sprint cars. Because you're asking it to steer and take a lateral load, at the same time, you're asking it to pull you forward and. Roll bar padding required in driver compartment (Fire retardant recommended). Glad we here in Michigan helped out a little, How well do the Neons run against Hondas at your track? Gas tanks ahead of rear axle allowed but must install shield under it. You can overdrive it a little bit to compensate. If the track goes slick you probably want to tighten it up. Front Wheel Drive Tips and Tricks - Live Tutorial - YouTube > The stiffest spring(s) should be where? http://www.mopartsracing.com/parts/neon.html. Basics of driving front wheel drive on dirt and a couple tips to get you up to speed and hopefully out of trouble. I am NO expert on FWD racing chassis setrups,,,,mainly just a messanger. Same as the Audi TT. will not be allowed to compete. Based on these 2007 IMCA rules, which HONDA car (model, Year, body style), Honda Engine and trans should a new racer pick to build and race?? Have Russ a Crankshaft Craftsman in Detroit regrind the stock roller cam to Oval track specs. The goal is to try to keep the car loaded so it doesn't get free. On this car, we would have already moved the upper mounts for the rear shock/springs out as much as possible to reduce the rear spring angles. What this means is you either want a softer swaybar or no swaybar at all in the front. If so, your anti-roll bar setup is on the right track. I think there are a lot of drivers who say they dont like racing front-wheel drive cars, but I think thats mainly because they have never driven a properly set up one. The studs bite better when pushed into the ice with camber vs scratching across it. I too have been racing FWD's for many years and early on, the folks that did my initial alignments, a race shop in LA, set the front toe out, and the rear in, not a Robb suggests, rear out. No racing, mud or snow tires. thick or thin ones? If your shop is saying different then take your car to another shop. But in terms of street cars, trying to drive it fast, youre going to be relying (mostly) on two things: A really good tire, and really good OEM electronics. It depends on the car and the tires being used. Evening up the front springs will help the car turn, and softening the RR spring, lowering the moment center, and raising the CG will provide better bite as the track dries out. I want to say I've heard that before, but for some reason the way you said it just clicked with me. Pretty much stock 4 cyl. Chassis Handling Tips - Fixes For Common Race Car Handling Problems Passing becomes difficult because of the one-groove nature of the track. must remain in the OEM location. It's a temp gauge that you will use to see how well the tires are working. The surface has not come apart just yet, and passing is a bit more manageable because the entire width of the track is uniform in grip. How to set your racing car tyre pressures perfectly (every time) WARNING: This is a big web page, about 180 posts, over 600K. This is especially true on cars with MacPherson strut front suspensions. Steering, braking, and power. You've just got to drive it and hang on. And, contrary to what many would consider "common sense," the lighter the rear of the car is, the stiffer the rear springs need to be, especially the right rear spring. Suddenly, youre asking the front tires to not only take the lateral loads but to pull you forward. Because when you are counter-steered there really is no traction. No center steering. Either way, the effect is only noticable at high steering lock. If we had nothing to learn, we may as well go golfing-not. Theyre front-heavy, the front tires tend to get over-taxed because youre asking them to do two things at once. There is no foam in the stock tank and the fuel will slosh around making it hard to keep the right fuel pressure to the engine. and .095-inch wall thickness tubing. Now weve seen a bit of what the driver can do to help negate some of the front-wheel drive disadvantages, but what can the car do to help in return? My hopes are to share some of my experiences to save folks in our Mopar family some time and effort, at least give a baseline from where to start. LM: We will want to soften the setup a little more while the track is transitioning through this phase, and we need to reverse-split the front springs. And the one thing about these cars today is they need to be driven just about like they are on the blacktop. It's just the way God intended it. The Panhard bar, mounted on the left side of the chassis, should be at heights of 12 inches left and 8 inches right. Gear diffs, however, have one shortcoming: If the inside wheel completely loses contact with the track surface, a gear diff will behave similarly to an open diff and send more power to the unloaded wheel. For my fwd street stud tire class ice racers I've morphed into adding castor and leaving the camber stock. Additionally, as a large percentage of front-wheel-drive cars these days are turbocharged, going to throttle early helps the car build boost sooner, further helping exit speed out of the corner. East Lincoln Motor Speedway on MyRacePass 1. This is actually 52-55 percent using the LF and RR wheels for the calculation. Now thats fine if youre dealing with a race car or an older car. Look for a car that has been taken care of and not rusted out. VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER (V.I.N. No matter how much we try to keep that unloaded, inside-front tire planted, however, itll still have less grip than the outside, loaded tire. Renegades, Pro 4, Thunder Bombers, Front Wheel Drive, Blue Ridge Outlaw Late Models, Next Generation Kids Series, Pure Stock V8. This kit upgrades standard hubs and bearings to service Neon ACRs. We may earn a commission from links on this page. In autocross, additional caster does lead to valid camber gain as the steering inputs are much greater on smaller, tighter course. Another option is to take some stagger out just as a quick adjustment. Sold individually. Under these conditions, teams using softer RR springs with Panhard bars high on the left side and low on the right side and with plenty of rear steer will find trouble. Must have inspection hole in bell housing. 8. And similarly, the Ferrari FF has a whole different drive system with a crazy step-off clutch off the front. Installing a differential helps keep that inside-front tire planted, while a touch of rear toe allows the driver to play fast and loose with the cars rear.
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