A good tune-up is a good tune-up regardless of the final loft gaps. Players have been doing this for a long time. [/quote] Abandoned Golf Courses for Sale (How Much?). If youre struggling with the current loft degrees of the irons in your bag, then changing the angle of your clubs by bending them could help you improve your ball striking. So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. Bending golf clubs is a relatively inexpensive procedure that you can pay someone else to do on your behalf. Looks like a bit more than expected for a standard lofted 6 but not crazy. Using an example of bending a full club strong, say 4*, what's the difference in hitting a 7 iron at *32 to hitting a 6 iron at *32. Takomo Golf Clubs Review: (As Good as Expected? Or, (tinfoil hat on) TMAG wants him to be the poster boy for how long their new irons are and this way they get to hear McCord gush about how Day hit a 168 yard 9 iron. Perhaps he likes the look of offset and that's how he chooses to get it done. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! The angle and loft of your golf clubs are extremely important. This sounds like a lot of advice from people who have never been high ball speed, high spin, high trajectory players. . 2. There's a reason good players don't just grab any club off the rack and change their swing to match the clubs. It is as basic as that. If there are a more than normal amount of clubs that you are seeing like this then I do not know what to say. 7-iron - 30 degrees. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. Callaway Apex Pro 16 KBS Tour V x So if you are steep or tend to take a pretty good divot, you may not want to bend them more than a degree. [/quote] Testing for correct lie angle is very easy - they'll put some tape along the sole of the club and get you to hit balls off a lie board (just a hard surface, can use the mat also but a good flat hard surface makes the mark easier to see). To avoid this, make sure to take your irons to a golf pro at least once a year. This is helpful if you want to adjust instead of replacing your irons, particularly if their loft angles arent as they should be. [/quote] 5 iron 26 198 TM tends to increase the bounce on their irons about 50% of the loft change. Copyright 2023 Mitchell Golf Equipment Company. There are the following reasons why you want to bend a club head. 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. It is just a way to fit the club for your swing, nothing that is . Then again this is all coming from a low spin player. Another thing to note is that a manufacturers new set of clubs doesnt mean their lofts are completely accurate. Given that bending your golf clubs is all about fine margins, its far too easy to get it wrong when you do it yourself, so its much better to entrust the process with a fitter who has the experience and the right equipment! There is no worry about bending a club that was bent last year or last week. 6-iron launch: 17* Mizuno used to manufacture their iron sets with flatter lies than most OEM's partly because the average Japanese male was shorter than the average N. American male. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). Thanks, [quote name='clemsondds' post='1859449' date='Aug 2 2009, 02:39 PM']Thanks but I'm more curious about launch angle. I'm also a very high spin player and I'm thinking this might help keep my iron distances consistent, especially when playing in the wind which I often do. Production Manager Wesley Turner: Five Years in the Bag. And how do you go about it? I'm also a very high spin player and I'm thinking this might help keep my iron distances consistent, especially when playing in the wind which I often do. Bending the loft is another story. Started Yesterday at 10:25 AM. Have you experimented with different shafts? Coops Equipment counts courtesy of Darrell Survey. Fitting.. gives you a choice. When you start messing with length, then you also mess with swing weight and then adding weight to compensate for the SW can start messing with the flex of the shaft. In addition, once a club is bent to a given specification, it will stay there until changed by an outside force of either bending again or striking a hard object. Show Your True Colors With Mitchell Golfs Custom Color Program. Upload or insert images from URL. A 4 iron only has 1 degree of bounce standard so will I have negative bounce when bent two degrees strong? A wide back milled slot enhances the clubhead's stability on off-center strikes Added perimeter weighting with toe-bias Covered with a pearl brush finish Pros Soft feel at the impact on strikes out of the middle Promotes accelerated ball speed in your 4 to 7 iron shots Reduced offset allows for better shot workability The 2-degree limit is only recommended when changing the lofts on irons due to the potential effect such bends will have on the sole angle of the club. [/quote] Anyone know if most pros have this done? So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. Basically almost all irons we offer on ExactGolf like all Miuras, Honmas TR20, Vegas and some Mizunos. Taking your irons to a pro and letting them get to work on your behalf is undoubtedly your best option. 7 iron 32 171 [/quote] You would still have to take the next club down to get to the distance you want. Using an example of bending a full club strong, say 4*, what's the difference in hitting a 7 iron at *32 to hitting a 6 iron at *32. When you start messing around with the hozzels and stress on clubs you need to know what you are doing. Or do people change launch angle to decrease bounce? Bending irons 2 degrees stronger gopher99 May 9, 2021 May 9, 2021 Thread starter #1 G gopher99 Active member Joined Mar 15, 2019 Messages 235 Hi, i need some info from the more knowledgeable people on here than myself, I would like to bend my mizuno 921 forged irons 2 degrees stronger to fit in with the gapping on my wedges. "Just change your swing" isn't always the answer. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. What Weaker Lofts or Weakening Lofts Means in Golf How do they test to determine which launch angle best suits you. [quote name='OldGolfer87' timestamp='1444324826' post='12428468'] Axis 1 Rose model 35.5'' You can also bend the angles to a consistent specification precisely fit for any golfer. (I think) I know this isn't real complexI guess what I'm asking is, I'm not sure what he testedI'm guessing lie since I hit on a board. [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='1441131685' post='12246270'] The most easy 'drill' is just hit it lower visually place a hoola hoop a few feet downline and hit the ball through it. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). Why is it so popular to bend your irons 2 degrees up? Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x 3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2" 4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2" 4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400. The #1 reason for doing this is it changes how the club will sit on the ground. 4. Biggest difference is in hit 2 degree upright in the center much more often and not as thin. no i've struggled with a fade all season. It is just a way to fit the club for your swing, nothing that is going to help your game unless you fall into the same catagory. Mickesgolf Standard length and lie are perfect for me. This sounds like a lot of advice from people who have never been high ball speed, high spin, high trajectory players. If your intent is to modify them by making them one degree strong, you will be changing the play of the iron, and also the physical appearance possible (could be debatable if the human eye can tell one degree, I'm not sure since I have never had to do this to any of my sets.). Your previous content has been restored. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] As mentioned, if youre thinking about bending your golf clubs, wed recommend consulting a professional club fitter first and getting a second opinion. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. Thanks everybody for the help! Maybe different shafts could reduce dynamic loft and reduce spin some but not a lot. Your previous content has been restored. [/quote] My wingspan finger tip to finger tip is 78". gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. All Rights Reserved. You're actual numbers are really not that bad, they a bit over the PGA tour average but I'm not sure it's worth adjusting all your clubs over. Cleveland RTX 2.0 50*, 55*, 60* Clear editor. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable United States. Pasted as rich text. Lie angles are easiest to adjust in forged irons; sometimes not possible to adjust in cast irons. 1001 Industrial Blvd Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? 6 iron 30 180 [quote name='OldGolfer87' timestamp='1444324826' post='12428468'] The Senior pros are able to compete with their graphite shafted irons, but the modern . gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. Taking the next club up isn't as easy because the lengths are longer and it won't be as easy to control. more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] Even the most skilled repair professionals can occasionally break a club. Vice versa if the club is upright. GIVEAWAY! It is not the old chestnut that more upright causes heel to dig in early and cause a more left (draw/pull shot) but that a more upright causes the face to be facing more leftward at impact (than it would otherwise do) - stick a pencil on to the face of your 7 iron so it faces out at 90 degress to the face and if you then hold it exactly level on the ground it (the pencil - and the face) will point at your target. Bending golf clubs is a viable option if youre looking to adjust the lie angle and loft of your golf clubs. If you want to add more loft to hit it a bit higher you can do so, but you will sacrifice some distance. "Just change your swing" isn't always the answer. Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. The truth about strong lofted irons | Today's Golfer Every set of clubs sold should have some sort of custom work on them if fitted properly. And that changes the flight of the ball right? Hi Greyson, Bending your irons strong will reduce the bounce of the club. You can take your clubs to a fitter, and they will be able to check the angles and lofts of each of your irons and make any necessary adjustments based on what they find. gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! There's a reason good players don't just grab any club off the rack and change their swing to match the clubs. I had one fitter tell me I could play at 4 deg flat but that seemed a little extreme. [quote name='cxx' timestamp='1441038802' post='12239622'] Terms & Conditions 9 iron 41 148 Display as a link instead, My 5 irons lie is 59 deg whereas the usual 5 iron lie from most manufacturers is more like 61 deg. Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. Golf is hard enough without a bag full of easy swings an choke downs? The 4 iron will have a negative bounce if you bend them 2 degrees. Repeat a few times for checking, and can check a few different irons ie 7 and 9 and 5 etc to confirm your general tendency. Now tilt the club grip end down a bit so that the club's toe comes up off the ground a fair bit and you'll see the pencil now points subtantially more leftward than before. [/b][/size] tiger does it, hyuck hyuck. In most instances, this means investing in high-tech golf bending machine that allows you to adjust your clubs by about two degrees. Reset Password The only way you would see a difference is if you put them side by side with another set of Ap2's that are not bent. Clubs are mass-produced with certain manufacturing variances in every factory. '19 Apex Pro 5-A w/PX Annealing ensures a more consistent grain structure in the metal; heat treatment makes the head hard enough to withstand constant golf ball impacts. [quote name='Dan Drake' timestamp='1441041993' post='12239944'] I had a lot of success bringing my spin rate and trajectory down to something more playable in the wind by tweaking the lofts a little strong. It's all about control and the less flex, the better the control. thanks, Any help would be much appreciated! and this is just for practice! 2. See What Members Are Saying! That's really surprising for amateurs. And provided the hosel of the wood is long enough to allow the bending bar to fit over its length, metal woods can be bent to custom-fit a player. Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. They will adjust each iron to get even gaps between each iron. They should be leading and flat. The credit goes to this website for explaining the entire process. Yes, when we talk of bending golf clubs, the iron family are the best candidates. Bending Golf Clubs: Should I Do it and How? I have some of my irons bent 2* strong. Or, (tinfoil hat on) TMAG wants him to be the poster boy for how long their new irons are and this way they get to hear McCord gush about how Day hit a 168 yard 9 iron. There is a tendency to over analyze things here, and the thought that a degree or two of loft making that big of a difference is often over exaggerated. Ok thanks ya'll. If you take your clubs to a fitter or professional, you can expect to pay somewhere between $5-$20 per club, but a lot will depend on the price of amendments in your local area. [/quote] So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. [/quote]Not gushing about that but I will gush over a 63-62 weekend. Titleist Response to USGA / R&A Distance Insights. Callaway Rogue Max LS 9* Tensei AV Blue 6, Titleist TSi3 strong 3w 13.5* PX HSRDUS black 70, Titleist TS3 19* hybrid Tensei Blue/Titleist TS3 23* TenseiBlue, Vokey SM8 50*F & 56*M Callaway Jaws MD5 60*. CallawayTCB w/ LAgolf L-series 5 was good. 6 iron 29 183 This can significantly alter the way that you strike the ball and can save you a fortune as far as upgrading, or changing clubs is concerned. Do you just go by the distance you hit them, and if you don't like your gaps you bend them a little? Warrior Golf Clubs Review - What Happened? Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. enjoy the game and enjoy your new irons: standard lie, loft and length works for 90% of recreational golfers. about 2-2.5 increase in bounce for 4-5 increase in loft. 5-G ENTER NOW! I'm also a very high spin player and I'm thinking this might help keep my iron distances consistent, especially when playing in the wind which I often do. i'm 6'1, that's why i went to this lie. So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. [/quote]tango xray 3 3 gives a great visual during practice with that hoop! Club bending can go wrong pretty easily, and its a mistake that you dont want to make with your irons! By the way, thank you all for your input! A standard golf shop, or fitting center will be able to do this. In some cases, due to the softness of our forgings, "craftsman's" marks on the hosels may result from bending them to the required loft / lie. so with that said my stronger lofts were nothing more than trying to maintain past iron distances , i would love to be able to hit a 47 or 48 degree pw 120 yrs or even a 155 to 160 yr 7 iron but age and injuries have seem to make that a next to impossible task Perhaps he likes the look of offset and that's how he chooses to get it done. This will change the trajectory of the ball, and can potentially cause misdirected shots. Maybe a little further, maybe a little lower, maybe to change bounce, maybe just looks/feels better. I would advise you to not try it yourself unless you have experience in doing so professionally. And that is forged soft steel clubheads and there are several forging methods and processes available. 4-iron - 20.5 degrees. You will notice the strike feels much more energetic and the ball flies totally different when you get it right. [/quote] So, for the sake of your irons, take your clubs to a custom fitter if you plan on bending them. Paste as plain text instead, When watching PGA tour on TV, sometimes we are surprised by the distance that the pros hit with their iron. Unfortunately what you then see is that they tend to pull their short irons. more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. Any adjustment to loft will alter the bounce angle on the sole. You should only really bend your golf clubs yourself if you have the right equipment at home to do the job. Check out our video: how-to bend your clubs on a Mitchell Golf Angle Machine: Get Bending! I'm curious about this as well. He wanted to see the club face wide open. stay away from attempting this on the course, and stay away from longer irons, until you've put in the time on the practice tee. A standard golf shop, or fitting center will be able to do this. 4 iron 22 206 Comparing 7 Iron Lofts - 2018 - Spargo Golf The most popular brand is Golfsmith which manufactures high-quality loft/lie bending machines. I've always just played with whatever I had, but I'm now trying to work my way up to being able to afford a set that actually fits me. AP2 irons are forged and can be bent with no problem, BUT I would recommend taking them to someone who does this for a living. The cb301 had an x100 and the blade had a modus 125x. [quote name='HandsomeMatt' timestamp='1441040098' post='12239780'] These are forgiving clubs so you can work on this new action and learn it in relative safety. Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? Epoxy Curing Times for Golf Clubs, Work Life and Shear Strength. We've chosen this model as it is a popular iron that suits a wide range of players from low handicappers to game improvers. So I play my irons 2 deg flat. Then again, I'm not sure that the spin you are talking about is a problem. How accurate are the loft and lie readings of clubs straight from the manufacturer? I read your comments on why some bend lofts on iron sets strong and i try to swing smooth because to me swinging hard offers little to no benefit ,please remember im talking about me and not others in general , i have lost speed on my swing over the last 5 years where it was noticable to me , but i truly started losing speed after my rotator cuff and bicep tendon tear on my right arm , i cant say it was a noticable difference but that is when it started in 2010 is when i started bending all my irons strong because of lost distance because i was hitting irons 1/4 to 1/2 a club different and it progressed over the next few seasons to a full 1/2 a club or about 2 degree's and then came a hip replacement in 2014 and when i got back to playing regularly i was bending a 46 degree wedge to 43 degree / 9 iron 39 degree's and so on and i did that to try to get to the same distance i had in 2010 where i hit GW 110 / PW 120 /9 iron 130 and it progressed from there .. Upload or insert images from URL. [b]I'm guessing when most say they have been bent 2 degrees, they are talking about the loft[/b]. Taylormade M6Callaway Steelhead XR 4+Mizuno MP-18 mb 4-PWTitliest SM7 50f, 54s, 58dSC Phantom X 5.5. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. Golf clubs that are 17-4 stainless steel cast irons will be more difficult to bend, as they are made of much harder metal than the likes of carbon steel and graphite. To bend a club effectively, you need to use a club bending machine or take your clubs to a professional to do it on your behalf. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. [quote name='HandsomeMatt' timestamp='1441040098' post='12239780'] You should absolutely give it a try with a few clubs and see what you think, you can always go back and it might just work. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, By [quote name='ijohnson' timestamp='1441070745' post='12242666'] Pros can easily hit their 7 iron over 170 yards or more. Great answer Blake. You can post now and register later. Should Golfers De-Loft Their Irons & Other Clubs - Benefits, Guide And that changes the flight of the ball right? You could bend them stronger but like anything there's a chance something breaks. 6 iron SS: 95.5 mph. So that could be the difference. What no one else has mentioned is that your 6 iron numbers are almost ideal for that club. You're actual numbers are really not that bad, they a bit over the PGA tour average but I'm not sure it's worth adjusting all your clubs over. Play a draw, no more or less than standard lie. Display as a link instead, Haven't registered for Team Titleist yet? Bubba might better be able to answer that question, I know you can with the mb or cbs. The spin makes the ball "balloon" and land too steep which actually makes it harder to stick greens so while the spin may not be the actual problem, it's the reason that I would like to flatten my ball flight out. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, By
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